Are you a commercial kennel?
No, we are a Professional kennel. 'Commercial' kennel implies that we are in business to turn a profit. That is absolutely NOT why we do this. I retired from Commercial Dog training in 2013 and now work full time at producing the best quality dogs that we can. We breed for the betterment of the breed, and none of the decisions made in our breeding program are done solely on a financial basis or with 'profit' in mind. Probably not very smart - as it is not uncommon for us to lose money on a litter - but I believe it is more important that the animals' best interests and care are kept in mind first - and always!! We maintain a high quality of life for our dogs, by homing them with responsible individuals as co-owners who, by contract, allow us to use them limitedly in our breeding program. Other pups are sold to loving homes like yours, or in some cases working homes with a high level of care.
Why do you have so many dogs listed for breeding?
We keep the pick male and pick female from every (or just about every) litter that we produce. These pick pups are entered into our breeding program (As shown on the website) where we grow them out, and begin their training in many disciplines. We maintain an assortment of desirable traits and unique bloodlines with specific characteristics from which we can draw upon when producing future generations. We continue to evaluate all of the dogs in our program as they mature and then strive to pair them with a mate that is best suited for them. That 'best match' may or may not be within our breeding program - or within this country. That depends on each individual dog. We spare no expense in finding and pairing the best possible match when producing pups. This ensures the best quality pups in all areas; temperament, balanced drive, stability, structure, bone density, health, pigment, and coat. The Total Package! Since we now have a large program with many dogs, we have begun to freeze the semen of our pick males, ensuring their use in our program when desired.
You have many dogs in your program, how do you keep track of traits, health and temperament?
We keep and maintain very detailed records on all the dogs in our program. In many cases these co-own dogs are within driving distance and I personally go out and check on each of them. For those that are at a greater distance I routinely call, email and discuss the dogs, any issues, training etc.. with each co-owner and take detailed notes. Many of our Co-own dogs are with trainers themselves, who have good insight into traits, and overall temperament. In many cases we see behaviour and general character passed on from generation to generation in the dogs - all originating from dogs that once lived with me, or I personally trained/worked.
Why are your pups more expensive than other breeders?
Every breeder has the right to decide the price of their pups and many have reasons as to why they feel that their price is fair. Below are the reasons why my pups are often, but not always, higher than that of other breeders.
1) The cost of my pups stem from the breakdown of expenses needed to create, raise and home the litters we produce. This includes selecting the best possible mate for each individual female, based on her structure, temperament, drive, phenotype and genotype. More often than not these males are not local - and not cheap. Shipping chilled or frozen semen, collecting, testing, transporting and inseminating costs a lot of money - but the pups produced are by far worth the effort and expense. Keep in mind that once all of this is done - there is still NO guarantee that the female will get pregnant. That is the gamble that the breeder takes - and its often a big one - $2000-$5000 BEFORE any pups are produced, let alone sold!
2) None of our dogs are kennel dogs - they live in my home or in the home of another individual that has agreed to work with us in our breeding efforts to improve the Malinois breed. We feed higher quality food, supplements, and provide top quality care for our dogs - both necessary and elective.
3) All of our dogs are health tested; this includes genetic testing, Xrays, cultures on semen for quality and harmful bacteria, eye exams and other procedures that warrant better breeding and reproduction.
4) We always take back, re-train, re-home and care for any/every dog that we have produced. In 17 years of breeding we have never had one of our dogs in Rescue! This takes dedication, money, time and patience. When space does not permit here at home with me, I have paid other trainers to do this. While I have rigorous screening procedures, and do routine follow up, provide training and breeder support, it has become necessary on occasion to remove a dog from someone's care (or lack of care), to assist in rehabilitating or re-homing it. This costs money as well as time spent away from doing other things.
5) All of our dogs, or those we choose to breed them to - are all extensively trained; many of whom are titled or certified in some discipline. Fees for training, trialing, showing, seminars, outside stud fees, and/or buying and importing new stock, costs money. It is important to us to both train and title our dogs in a variety of disciplines. This shows that the dogs we are choosing to reproduce have merit. That they are a benefit to their breed - and its improvement.
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Are your dogs health tested?
Yes - all of our breeding dogs are OFA X-rayed for Hips, Spine and Elbows with passing grades. In some cases we also do additional testing for things such eye disease, thyroid and other tests; particularly on imported stock that is new to our program. Documentation of the parents exams are provided with the purchase of a pup from our kennel.
Why are only some of your dogs listed on the official OFA (Orthopedic Foundation for Animals) website ?
All of the dogs that we breed have been Xrayed and evaluated. However, not all of the dogs live with me and I am not always able to take them to the vet clinic for the Xrays myself, especially if they are in different cities or countries. The Co-owners frequently do this for me - and it is up to them to fill out the OFA form for Xray submissions/evaluations. On that form, there is a small box that must be initialed by the Owner of the dog to allow the results to be published on their public website - www.offa.org. In many cases my name is the only official name of record on the dog's registration papers - and therefore my signature/initials are required. Since I am not present at the time the Xrays were done - I have not been able to sign the release box on the form. The formal certificates are still sent to me - they are just not published on their public site to be viewed. I provide copies of the OFA Certificates to ALL puppy buyers. I do not post them on my website as they have my home address listed and I do not wish that to be public for all to see.
What health problems do Malinois' have?
Malinois' in general are a very healthy breed, so far. They have a low incidence of Hip Dysplasia, and genetic eye disorders. While all varieties (Groenendael, Tervuren, Malinois and Lakenois) of Belgian Shepherd are affected with epilepsy, it seems to be more prevalent in the long coated varieties and in certain bloodlines. There is effective testing available for most genetic eye related issues, however to date there is no test that can determine the status of epilepsy in dogs. Genetic epilepsy will present in an affected dog by age 4 - so any dog that is age 4 or greater and does not have epilepsy should be free of it, but it is possible that they may be a carrier for it and when mated with another dog who is also a carrier, could in theory produce a pup with it. There are numerous genes that can cause genetically inherited epilepsy and it is thought that they all must be inherited to produce an animal affected with the disorder; making its mode of inheritance polygenic. We do extensive research into the bloodlines we buy/import for use, and have conducted breeding tests within our own stock for concerning polygenic and recessively inherited genes. For more info on this click here. To date we have not produced a single dog with epilepsy.
What health problems have your dog's had?
I keep extremely detailed records on all the dogs that we produce, and I am honest about what has been produced - both desirable and non-desirable. In seventeen years of breeding, we have had a few pups with minor issues, such as puppy demodex, usually at the time of weaning, which can be more stressful to some pups versus others: all improved without treatment. One pup was born with a square femoral head, and subsequently did not pass Hip evaluations at 24months old. One pup was born with 3 fused vertebrae, and required humane euthanasia. In both cases the pups were from unrelated parents - in out-cross breedings from imported lines: Both pups were replaced with another pup when one became available, as is part of our health guarantee. Three of our breeding females have developed mammary tumours in their senior years (as can happen with females who are not spayed at an early age) and had surgery to remove the lesions. All females recovered quickly and we are continuing to monitor then as they continue to age. Seven dogs (out of nearly 400 we have produced), all from different litters, have presented with an allergy to wheat and/or other common ingredients in commercial kibble (or as we now know better from the pet food recall - what they put in these products!); symptoms included itchy skin, and upset stomach - all resolved without treatment and simple modification of diet. Reports from owners have also included fast metabolisms, requiring frequent meals to prevent regurgitation of stomach bile, which is common in active working breeds. From what I can ascertain these issues are more related to individual lifestyle choices rather than inheritable concern. We monitor the health of all the dogs we produce throughout their lifetime and are honest with all buyers. They are living breathing creatures that do not exist in a bubble and everything we feed them, inject them with and expose them to can result in issues. For this reason, in 2010 we started to implement the use of limited vaccines, and holistic rearing practices that includes raw diet, and natural dewormers and cleaning products used in and around our home and whelping/puppy areas.
KIDS and ANIMALS
Are your Malinois' good with kids?
Yes - our dogs are exposed to young children from an early age and as long as the owner continues to maintain early socialization our dogs are excellent with kids. However, we think it is important to ask - "are your kids good with dogs?" If your child teases, harms, harasses and other wise treats an animal poorly (any animal) - there is a higher likelihood of that animal putting a stop to it - if you don't!!
Are your Malinois' good with other animals?
Yes - our dogs are exposed to other domestic animals while they are still with their litter, and owners are encouraged to continue socializing their pup to all sorts of animals.
Are your Malinois' Registered?
Yes - Our Breeding Dogs are both American Kennel Club Registered and Canadian Kennel Club Registered. Pups are sold with non-breeding CKC papers, with specific contract conditions.
Do you Microchip or Tattoo?
Actually - both. Our dogs/pups are Canadian Kennel Club registered with their microchip numbers, but we maintain additional independent records with our own tattoo series on Pick pups. We also DNA test and record all of the pups that we produce. Our pups are sold on non-breeding contracts, which we expect to be upheld. Due to some unscrupulous individuals this has become necessary to ensure the integrity of our bloodlines, and more importantly the quality of the dogs produced from it.
Why don't you post pedigree's on your site?
This is, apparently, a controversial question. I have decided not to post pedigree's as I believe "proof is in the pudding" - you can ascertain far more information from looking at, and meeting, the dogs from whom you are purchasing a pup directly - not in generations past. Our bloodlines are some of the top working lines, and most desirable from Europe and around the world. I focus on breeding to the written breed standard, which encompasses Temperament, Structure, and Workability - in that order, with health in mind of course too. Without the first two elements, a dog wouldn't be able to perform any task - so it's of the utmost importance. I am happy to forward pedigrees to prospective buyers when requested, but it should not be the basis upon which someone buys a pup. Look at the pup itself - not just its pedigree!
Canadian Kennel Written Breed Standard - please note that in Canada all 4 coat varieties are shown together.
American Kennel Club Written Breed Standard
ABOUT THE DOGS
Do your dogs have "Drive"?
YES! our dogs have lots of drive. In fact some of our breeding dogs probably have too much. LOL Many people who come out to see our dogs perform are absolutely shocked at their intensity and commitment to work. I think that people have established their own erroneous assumptions based on the photos and titles that our dogs have obtained, and are posted, on this site. While our dogs show in conformation - they also excel at performance and protection sports - guaranteed! Are dogs have genetic full mouth grips - are calm and confident in all social situations but can quickly escalate their intensity when needed.
Why aren't your dogs titled in more Protection Sports?
I have trained for, and titled dogs in, French Ring and Schutzhund before. However, commitment to training and titling for these sports takes an enormous amount of time and dedication - that quite frankly I cannot afford right now. I have family obligations, not to mention the care of numerous breeding females and subsequent litters. Because I invest so much time in the careful and diligent rearing of pups (for two to five litters per year) where I am bound to the house and therefore cannot commit to club training. Producing quality pups consumes at least 8 months of every year for me. Furthermore, such sports require the help and assistance of others - decoys/helpers, and often a training ground (as I live in the heart of the city and bite work would not be tolerated at the local parks). It can take up to an entire day just to travel and train, which would be needed multiple days per week to be any good at it. All of my dogs have solid foundation in bite work and will protect for real - if needed. Therefore, I have decided to concentrate on Competitive Obedience for now as I can train at home and in my local neighbourhood, without the required assistance of many others or a specific location in which to practice.
Why do your females have more titles than most of your males?
This is because all of our dogs are Co-owned with different individuals. I do not keep any of our dogs in kennel situations - that is not in their best interest. It is far easier to find Co-owners for un-altered male dogs than it is to find good working homes, with Co-own agreements for intact females that will have heat cycles. Therefore, I tend to keep back the pick females when I can, and work on titling them myself. Since I will only keep three dogs to work at any one time, I am limited as to the numbers of dogs that I can work. I have been fortunate to find the odd individual that accepts a Co-own agreement AND has interest in working and titling their dog. For that reason, anyone interested in such an arrangement will get the pick pup from the litter, and financial compensation will be paid for use of breeding on titled dogs.
Do you have Show Dogs or Work Dogs?
Our dogs are from working lines, there are no 'show' dog lines in our program. We consider our dogs, as does the show community, to be of working descent with correct structure, but they are not considered overly 'typey' - or the over exaggeration of 'preferred physical traits' i.e. Narrow skulls, ears that are so high set as to touch one another, narrow body frames, lack of stop or flat skull, taller than its length - which is not square either. Our dogs have exceptional movement, which is directly related to correct front and rear (structure) assembly. We encourage all prospective buyers to read the written breed standard, as we strive to meet all requirements and definitions.
More information on correct structure and movement click here.
Are your Malinois' food motivated?
95% of our Malinois' are very food motivated and do well with treat training. We have had the odd pup (5 in fifteen years) that are not motivated by food and choose to eat infrequent meals as well. Behaviour modification exercises have been helpful in correcting this.
Can your dogs settle in the house? Do they have an "off" switch?
Our dogs do well in the home environment and will absolutely lay down and relax, as long as their needs have been met. We start this type of conditioning when the pups are still with us in the litter. All pups are raised in a communal area of the house. We sit and play with them from a young age and then place them back in their pen with a bone or toy and they learn to settle themselves from an early age. We encourage owners to maintain this conditioning when they take their pup home.
SHIPPING AND/OR PICK-UP
Do you ship puppies by air?
Yes - at present we are shipping throughout North America. If requested, arrangements to ship over seas can be done. IF you are in the US, new shipping regulations need to be met for imports less than 16 weeks old. Please email us directly for more information on this process.
At what age are the pups ready for pick up/shipping?
We allow our pups to leave us between their 7th and 8th week minimum. Staying with us for additional training is possible, but must be pre-arranged. Some additional costs for training and care will ensue.
Do you have a Kennel? Can I come and meet the dogs?
We are a registered kennel with the Canadian Kennel Club, but do not own or operate a kennel in true definition. All of our dogs are companions first, breeding dogs second. All of the dogs live in the house and are part of our lives. Having litters adds to their life, but shall never define it! Many of our breeding dogs have titles at both ends of their name. These titles have been obtained by consistent training (time spent with them) and from attending numerous shows and trials (places we take them).
We encourage everyone that can to come and meet us and the dogs. We are frequently out at trials and shows and are always happy to meet and chat with you. I always recommend that people come out to meet us in unfamiliar places so that they can see our dogs' impeccable temperaments; something we are very proud of. Seeing is believing - a dog's temperament and genetic character can only truly be witnessed at times of stress or heavy distraction/noise - like shows/trials or at a local shopping mall.
REFERENCES AND TESTIMONIALS
Do you have References?
Yes - I have lots of references from past puppy buyers and owners and we are always happy to pass them along to you. Please contact and I would be happy to do so.
Do you breed for Colour?
NO! While many of our dogs have lovely colouring, or more accurately 'deep pigment', we do not breed for a specific 'colour'. However, pigment is very important, and so yes we do select for that in our breeding decisions. Pigment (i.e. colour of skin, nails, eyes, and yes fur) is produced from melanin. Melanin is also found in the organs of the dog, and many believe is essential for good health. There are two types of Melanin: Eumelanin, which is responsible for Black pigments, and phaeomelanin, which is responsible for Red pigment. However, these can also be affected and changed by other genes that 'modify' their expression - turning Black to Blue, and Fawn ranging in colour from light to deep/dark, like that with Mahogany coloured dogs, which is really just a deeply pigmented fawn.
Do you sell pups based on Colour or markings?
NO! We do not sell or select pups for buyers based on colour or markings. I do allow for preference towards, or away from, specific colours, such as Blue. But I will not select a pup for someone that has specific colour or markings. Temperament, level of drive and energy is much more important than 'colour'.
What is 'Blue' or Dilution? Does it have associated health problems?
'Blue' or Dilution is a genetic mutation that occurs in many breeds, whereby the colour of the hair, eyes and skin are lightened i.e) Diluted.. Chocolate Labs is an example of a dilution gene. In Malinois this can make Black hair, Blue, (or sometimes liver/brown, which we do not have in our line). In dilutes, the eyes usually become yellow or green and the associated skin and nails become dark grey, or brown in the case of Liver coloured Mals. While we do not specifically breed to obtain this dilution it is present in our bloodline and an off-coloured pup appears from time to time. From the pups that we have produced, or that have been produced from our bloodline, no associated health problems have been experienced. Blue dilution in Doberman's has had some reported illnesses, but there have been none in Wiemaraners - it appears that there are several genes that are responsible for this phenomenom, but only some of them carry health concerns, namely poor hair coat, with them.
What's involved in a Co-own agreement?
The pick male and pick female from every litter is retained by the kennel for our breeding program. This is to ensure that we can continue breeding the highest quality dogs with each generation. We do, from time to time, allow these pick pups to be co-owned with specific people. We are looking for owners that wish to work/title their dogs and allow us access for use of stud or a contracted number of litters. Compensation for use is often part of the agreement. For more information on potential co-owns please contact me directly.
For more information and additional questions answered on Co-owing Click 'here'.
CONTRACTS AND GUARANTEES
Do you post your contracts online for people to read?
No. We have gone to great expense and trouble to have written legal documents that protect both parities. This site has become a reference source for new and/or backyard breeders who are incapable of doing their own work, or would simply pilfer from others who have. Buyers that place deposits will be sent a copy of the purchase contract before the final sale will be completed. General points that are covered include: duration of the health guarantee and what it covers, responsibilities of the kennel, responsibilities of the buyer, how/where 'disputes' are to be settled, penalties should any of the terms of the contract be breached, etc...
Do you take your pups back if the owner can't keep them?
Yes. If for any reason you are not able to keep you dog, then we will take them back. However, buyers are required to train their pups, and provide proof of such, from a young age if requested. We will not tolerate buyer's shirking their responsibilities only to make it our burden when they can no longer manage their dog, or simply don't want to. We do provide breeder support and assistance, working with owners who have run into problems, in the hope of keeping their dog with them. However, in the case of willful neglect /dereliction of duty, owners will be billed for training that is required/necessary for dogs that are brought/sent back to us.
Have any of your dogs ended up in Rescue?
No! In seventeen years of breeding, not a single dog we have produced has ended up in rescue. This is something we are very proud of, and work hard to both maintain and enforce. There are financial penalties, written into the contract for relinquishment to a shelter or rescue.
Do you rescue?
No. We take responsibility for ALL the dogs we produce here at our kennel. I expect the same of anyone that calls themselves a breeder - and charges money for the pups that they produce. By providing a resource for unwanted or abused/neglected purebred dogs produced by, and purchased from, 'breeders', I believe you help perpetuate and support the vary thing many strive to stop. Breeders should take responsibility for the pups they produce and sell - and not rely on others to bail them out so that they can continue to profit and produce more pups that will end up in this never ending cycle. If breeders were held accountable and actually had to take time, and money to take-in, re-train, house and re-home the pups they sell, they would 1) produce better pups less likely to come back, 2) find better homes to place them with less likelihood of them coming back, and 3) plan their litters based on their resources and ability to care for and house any/all pups they have produced. If you are a buyer, demand that all pups produced be permanently identified (microchip and/or tattoo, thereby making that breeder traceable and accountable). Insist all pups come with a written purchase contract with a clause that states they must be returned to the breeder if the original buyer cannot keep said pup. Please do not buy a pup from someone who does not do AT LEAST this; chances are it will end up in rescue.
Please visit our Photos page and are Past Puppies page for lots of photos depicting much of what has been discussed on this page. Please don't hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions or would like additional information.